Interviewing Poorly and Failing To Get The Job, Twice! Terry McDougall

Interviewing Poorly and Failing To Get The Job, Twice! Terry McDougall

My guest for Episode #44 of “the My Favorite Mistake” podcast is Terry McDougall. She is an executive and career coach, speaker and best-selling author of Winning the Game of Work: Career Happiness and Success on Your Own Terms.

After 30 years of corporate business experience, 15 of which were in senior managerial roles, Terry chose to become a coach, in 2017. She also has a new podcast called “Marketing Mambo.

In today's episode, Terry tells a “favorite mistake” story about a time she applied for an internal leadership position, but she “bombed” the interview after being in the interim role. After a hiring misstep, the position was again posted and she again failed to get the job.

“It was all on me — I wasn't prepared.”

Terry McDougall

While it was painful, Terry calls it a “favorite” mistake because she learned so much through those experiences. She identified gaps in her interviewing skills and has worked on that — and it helps her now help others more effectively.

“Not getting back up is the failure.”

Terry McDougall

We also talk about panel interviews and how those are different in a Zoom area, along with other reflections and lessons on job hunting and career advancement. Terry also tells a story about the benefits of “small tests of change” before doing a big launch of something.

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"For most people, their biggest weakness is their biggest strength overused. And a lot of times when you overuse a strength, it gets you into trouble."

"The key part of [turning a mistake into something positive] was me having the courage to really face my deficits and do something about it."

"I guess my lesson there is that really, there are no mistakes. There are just opportunities to learn and improve."

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Mark Graban is an internationally-recognized consultant, author, and professional speaker who has worked in healthcare, manufacturing, and startups. His latest book is Measures of Success: React Less, Lead Better, Improve More. He is author of the Shingo Award-winning books Lean Hospitals and Healthcare Kaizen, as well as The Executive Guide to Healthcare Kaizen. He also published the anthology Practicing Lean that benefits the Louise H. Batz Patient Safety Foundation, where Mark is a board member. Mark is also a Senior Advisor to the technology company KaiNexus. He is also a Senior Advisor and Director of Strategic Marketing with the healthcare advisory firm, Value Capture.